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Yohan Yukiya Sese Cuneta 사요한🦣<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@fromjason" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>fromjason</span></a></span> </p><p>## DDFON / Mycelial Web</p><p>Sometime in the early 2010s, I've been using DDFON = Decentralized, Distributed, Federated, Open Network.</p><p>In 2022/2023, I reopted the chosen new name for the Fediverse "Mycelium" since in the end no one used it (even after multiple votes and discussions). I now use it this way:</p><p>* DDFON friendly name is "Mycelial Web".<br>* Each network is called "Mycelium network".</p><p>Since a "mycelium" is a single network in real life and the plural of it (a collection of mycelium) is "mycelial".</p><p>## Open Social / Social Web / Open Social Web</p><p>There is also "Social Web" and "Open Social Web", which are the same actually. However, in the mid to late 2000s, it was already defined as any network that uses any technology that promotes openness and interoperability. There was also a now defunct organization called "Open Social" and a W3C effort supporting such technologies that falls under "Open Social".</p><p>Two examples of "Open Social Web" are Hi5 and Google Plus. Hi5 and Google Plus are not DDFON / Mycelial Web but are Social Web / Open Social / Open Social Web.</p><p>## Personally</p><p>I make a distinction between the much larger "Social Web" / "Open Social" / "Open Social Web" versus the more focused DDFON or Mycelial Web .</p><p>Underneath the DDFON / Mycelial Web label are the Mycelium networks like:</p><p>1. Fediverse (ActivityPub)<br>2. ATmosphere (ATproto)<br>3. The Federation (diaspora*)<br>4. Matrix (Matrix)<br>5. Jabber (XMPP)<br>6. NOSTRich (Nostr)<br>7. and others</p><p>🙂</p><p>Tags: <a href="https://c.im/tags/OpenSocial" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OpenSocial</span></a> <a href="https://c.im/tags/SocialWeb" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SocialWeb</span></a> <a href="https://c.im/tags/OpenSocialWeb" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OpenSocialWeb</span></a> <a href="https://c.im/tags/Fediverse" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Fediverse</span></a> <a href="https://c.im/tags/ActivityPub" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ActivityPub</span></a> <a href="https://c.im/tags/ATmosphere" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ATmosphere</span></a> <a href="https://c.im/tags/ATproto" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ATproto</span></a> <a href="https://c.im/tags/TheFederation" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>TheFederation</span></a> <a href="https://c.im/tags/diaspora" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>diaspora</span></a>* <a href="https://c.im/tags/Matrix" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Matrix</span></a> <a href="https://c.im/tags/Jabber" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Jabber</span></a> <a href="https://c.im/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a> <a href="https://c.im/tags/NOSTRich" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>NOSTRich</span></a> <a href="https://c.im/tags/Nostr" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Nostr</span></a> <a href="https://c.im/tags/Mycelium" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Mycelium</span></a> <a href="https://c.im/tags/MycelialWeb" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>MycelialWeb</span></a> <a href="https://c.im/tags/DDFON" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>DDFON</span></a></p>
Yohan Yukiya Sese Cuneta 사요한🦣<p>20 years later, <a href="https://c.im/tags/Veoh" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Veoh</span></a> bids farewell.</p><p>If you're looking for a new home, search for <a href="https://c.im/tags/PeerTube" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>PeerTube</span></a> , a <a href="https://c.im/tags/decentralized" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>decentralized</span></a> <a href="https://c.im/tags/distributed" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>distributed</span></a> <a href="https://c.im/tags/federated" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>federated</span></a> &amp; open, video hosting platform connected to the <a href="https://c.im/tags/Fediverse" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Fediverse</span></a> network.</p><p><a href="https://c.im/tags/Hosting" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Hosting</span></a> <a href="https://c.im/tags/Video" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Video</span></a> <a href="https://c.im/tags/VideoHosting" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>VideoHosting</span></a> <a href="https://c.im/tags/ActivityPub" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ActivityPub</span></a> <a href="https://c.im/tags/DDFON" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>DDFON</span></a> <a href="https://c.im/tags/MycelialWeb" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>MycelialWeb</span></a> <a href="https://c.im/tags/SocialWeb" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SocialWeb</span></a></p>
Yohan Yukiya Sese Cuneta 사요한🦣<p>re: `fediverse:creator` “OpenGraph” tag.</p><p>What is the `prefix=''` namespace for `fediverse:`?</p><p>I checked the official website of <a href="https://c.im/tags/OpenGraph" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OpenGraph</span></a> (see: <a href="https://ogp.me" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">ogp.me</span><span class="invisible"></span></a>) and I don't see the `fediverse:` namespace anywhere. Which means this `fediverse:` namespace is _not_ an OpenGraph tag and will more likely not work without a proper prefix namespace, correct?</p><p>So, what am I missing here? People are already adding it. O_O</p><p><a href="https://c.im/tags/ActivityPub" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ActivityPub</span></a> <a href="https://c.im/tags/Fediverse" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Fediverse</span></a> <a href="https://c.im/tags/SocialWeb" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SocialWeb</span></a> <a href="https://c.im/tags/MycelialWeb" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>MycelialWeb</span></a> <a href="https://c.im/tags/DDFON" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>DDFON</span></a> <a href="https://c.im/tags/Mastodon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Mastodon</span></a> <a href="https://c.im/tags/webdev" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>webdev</span></a></p>
Yohan Yukiya Sese Cuneta 사요한🦣<p>Isn't this a missed opportunity for the <a href="https://c.im/tags/fediverse" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>fediverse</span></a>, <a href="https://c.im/tags/Pixelfed" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Pixelfed</span></a> in particular?</p><p>«A social app for creatives, Cara grew from 40k to 650k users in a week because artists are fed up with Meta’s AI policies»</p><p><a href="https://techcrunch.com/2024/06/06/a-social-app-for-creatives-cara-grew-from-40k-to-650k-users-in-a-week-because-artists-are-fed-up-with-metas-ai-policies/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">techcrunch.com/2024/06/06/a-so</span><span class="invisible">cial-app-for-creatives-cara-grew-from-40k-to-650k-users-in-a-week-because-artists-are-fed-up-with-metas-ai-policies/</span></a></p><p><a href="https://c.im/tags/Cara" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Cara</span></a> <a href="https://c.im/tags/Meta" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Meta</span></a> <a href="https://c.im/tags/Instagram" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Instagram</span></a> <a href="https://c.im/tags/AI" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>AI</span></a> <a href="https://c.im/tags/ActivityPub" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ActivityPub</span></a> <a href="https://c.im/tags/Mycelial" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Mycelial</span></a> <a href="https://c.im/tags/MycelialWeb" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>MycelialWeb</span></a> <a href="https://c.im/tags/SocialWeb" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SocialWeb</span></a> <a href="https://c.im/tags/DDFON" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>DDFON</span></a> <a href="https://c.im/tags/Photography" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Photography</span></a> <a href="https://c.im/tags/Creatives" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Creatives</span></a> <a href="https://c.im/tags/Mycelium" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Mycelium</span></a> <a href="https://c.im/tags/MyceliumNetwork" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>MyceliumNetwork</span></a></p>
Yohan Yukiya Sese Cuneta 사요한🦣<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.xyz/@twen" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>twen</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://social.coop/@smallcircles" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>smallcircles</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://social.beaware.live/@BeAware" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>BeAware</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@fediversereport" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>fediversereport</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://axbom.me/users/axbom" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>axbom</span></a></span> </p><p>In 2010 (iirc), I simply called everything as <a href="https://c.im/tags/DDFON" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>DDFON</span></a> or the “Decentralised, Distributed, Federated, Open, Network”. It covers everything.</p><p>Last year, I started calling DDFON as <a href="https://c.im/tags/MycelialWeb" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>MycelialWeb</span></a> and the different networks as <a href="https://c.im/tags/Mycelium" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Mycelium</span></a> or <a href="https://c.im/tags/MyceliumNetwork" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>MyceliumNetwork</span></a>. This based on the idea someone submitted in my polls over the <a href="https://c.im/tags/Fediverse" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Fediverse</span></a> (sadly gone, the instances where I conducted the polls are now offline, thought there should still be some copy/archive somewhere).</p><p>In nature, a mycelium is a network of mycelia. And a collection of mycelium network is called mycelial.</p><p>So:<br>* <a href="https://c.im/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a> Mycelium network<br>* <a href="https://c.im/tags/Matrix" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Matrix</span></a> Mycelium network<br>* <a href="https://c.im/tags/ActivityPub" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ActivityPub</span></a> Mycelium network (or simply Fediverse)<br>* <a href="https://c.im/tags/ATproto" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ATproto</span></a> Mycelium network (or simply <a href="https://c.im/tags/BlueSky" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>BlueSky</span></a> / <a href="https://c.im/tags/Bsky" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Bsky</span></a>)<br>* <a href="https://c.im/tags/Nostr" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Nostr</span></a> Mycelium network<br>* <a href="https://c.im/tags/Diaspora" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Diaspora</span></a> Mycelium network<br>* and so on.</p><p>And together, these are called the <a href="https://c.im/tags/Mycelial" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Mycelial</span></a> Web.</p><p>If the above is confusing, another option is to go back to the umbrella term that was used since 2005, and somehow fell out of use: the <a href="https://c.im/tags/SocialWeb" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SocialWeb</span></a>.</p><p>The umbrella term is: Social Web. And within it are the different mycelium networks. Or, “technically”, DDFON (Decentralised, Distributed, Federated, Open, Network).</p><p>^_~</p><p><a href="https://c.im/tags/YourOnlyOne" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>YourOnlyOne</span></a></p>