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tl;dr — how do PieFed/Lemmy/Mbin handle cross-posting?

Currently, when a NodeBB admin moves a topic from the uncategorized pseudo-category into a local category, we federate out an as:Announce, people typically think of that as a "boost" or "share".

That worked fine when the entirety of the category list was your local categories plus the "uncategorized" pseudo-category. However, now that NodeBB is moving towards supporting remote categories (via group actors), this UX makes less sense. We wouldn't want to "move" a topic out of the category it is supposed to be in, just for visibility to other local users. Additionally, topic moving was limited to administrators, and from the get-go we knew it would eventually cause issues because people other than admins would want to share topics to other local users.

This is where the "cross-post" functionality comes in, which is entirely new to NodeBB. I don't think this is new to other AP-enabled threaded discussion software. The idea would be that if a new topic comes in, whether it's uncategorized or not, any user could "cross-post" that topic to a local category, where it would be visible to other users on that instance. On the ActivityPub side, we would then federate out an as:Announce as we already do.

Is this what PieFed/Lemmy/Mbin already do, if they support cross-posting? What other alternative solutions would there be to this problem?

cc @rimu@mastodon.nzoss.nz @andrew_s@piefed.social @nutomic@lemmy.ml @bentigorlich@wehavecookies.social

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@jasperb @sebastian @futurebird @Gargron @dansup @pixelfed Interesting detail from that link: "Mastodon has been developing a built-in groups feature for some time now, but it hasn’t been released yet. From the screenshots posted so far, it seems it will be more of a Facebook Groups type forum rather than a public discussion list. (You can see highly technical details and screenshots of this upcoming Groups feature on their github page github.com/mastodon/mastodon/p )

"However, it is unclear if Mastodon groups will work across the Fediverse or only on Mastodon. Guppe is platform-neutral, and will work on any kind of Fediverse server that supports microblogging including Mastodon, Friendica and others."

fedi.tips/how-to-use-groups-on

Lots of activity on the Github page around 2022 by @ClearlyClaire but not much since?

Also, there's a video on how it'll work, and this note: "This PR is not intended to be merged outside of purely development environments until it's finished. While it has reached a pretty stable state, groups are a complicated topic, and the database model, API and protocol design may change before the PR gets merged, with no clear migration path between versions of this PR."

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This PR is not intended to be merged outside of purely development environments until it's finished. While it has reached a pretty stable state, groups are a complicated top...
GitHubAdd groups support by ClearlyClaire · Pull Request #19059 · mastodon/mastodonBy ClearlyClaire

#Piefed (#Reddit alternative), and #Lemmy and #MBIN alternative too, has added a nice new feature called "Feeds" which is like multi-reddit. You can create your own public feeds by combining a number of communities together. People on any other Piefed instance can subscribe to your feed.

If you're interested in using Piefed as a Reddit alternative, or checking out this feature, I run a public instance, feddit.online. You can see all Piefed server choices at join.piefed.social/try/

piefed.social/post/500805

feddit.onlineFeddit.online - Explore Anything, Discuss EverythingThis is a public PieFed instance. We are administrated in the Boston, MA, area but open to everybody in the galaxy.Prohibited behavior:Religious in…

It’s true. I’m retiring @fediversenews, and have created @fediversenews as its successor.

I used to post constantly to that #Friendica group. However, I am incredibly pleased with the moderation toolkit of #Piefed, so it only makes sense to use that software instead.

For those who don’t know, Piefed is a #Reddit-like platform – similar to #Lemmy and #Mbin – but I feel it has amongst the best community management tools of the federated Reddit-like platforms. So I am thrilled to be migrating an old community over to Piefed.

Oh yeah, and I’m looking for moderators. So if this interests you, let me know.

RE: https://piefed.social/post/488665

piefed.socialWelcome!This community is the next iteration of @fediversenews@venera.social, which is currently a Friendica group that will be retired in a month. @f…

Confirmed. You can post from a microblogging platform (e.g., #Mastodon, #Akkoma, etc.) to #Piefed simply by mentioning the group actor in your post.

Piefed sticks a [Microblog] descriptor in the title so that #Lemmy, #Mbin, and Piefed readers know that the post originated from a microblog.

To use this feature, you need to use @ for the mention instead of !. For example @community@exampleserver.com.

This is yet another reason I’ll be using Piefed to create communities.

So it seems to me that, for posting purposes, #Piefed is much friendlier to #Mastodon and #Akkoma than #Mbin is.

When you look up a Piefed post on microblogging platforms, it returns a link to the post as well as the body:

https://piefed.social/post/488492

But when you look up an Mbin post, it repeats the title twice and does not display the body:

https://kbin.earth/m/pcgaming@lemmy.ca/t/947755/Steam-s-best-rated-games-of-2024-aren-t-what-you-d-expect

For this reason, I’ll be posting from piefed.social simply because I want my posts to be readable on microblogging platforms. To be sure, this is not a slam against Mbin. I acknowledge it’s a work in progress. But I have to use the platform that works for my purposes.

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✨ this is what tech empowerment looks like ✨

my year in tech (Feb 2025 edition):

- Jun 2024: started the blog #TheFutureIsFederated
- Jul: started interoperability tests
- Aug: federated my #Wordpress site & joined #Friendica #Lemmy #Mbin and #PieFed
- Sep: federated 2 more sites
- Oct: joined #Sharkey
- Dec: got a #VPS, installed #YunoHost and started self-hosting via #GoToSocial
- Jan 2025: set up my own #Pixelfed and #Friendica instances
- Feb: migrating to my self-hosted #GhostIO blog

#Mbin just got updated to v1.8.0.

It has lots of big new features such as:

  • ability to bookmark threads, microblogs, and comments
  • notification settings per user/magazine/thread/microblog
  • inline previews of linked posts
  • improved smartphone/touch experience
  • ability to filter search results by magazine

Check it out:

https://github.com/MbinOrg/mbin/releases/tag/v1.8.0

GitHubRelease v1.8.0 · MbinOrg/mbinThis is the v1.8.0 release of Mbin and it is a feature packed one. It brings an extensive bookmarking system, signup request support, signup notifications, extended markdown rendering, custom notif...

Today’s #HOA entrant: “Stop promoting #Lemmy because it’s made by Stalinist trash.”

I’m not “promoting” Lemmy. I don’t even use it—I prefer and recommend #Mbin.

But Lemmy is already popular, and I would be a fool if I didn’t acknowledge this. For better or worse, this is the #Reddit alternative that has the biggest userbase. It is what it is.

For what it’s worth, the biggest Lemmy server is lemmy.world, and it’s not run by Lemmy devs. And no, I’m not going to defederate it just because it runs Lemmy.

Whatever your grief with Lemmy devs, they still made software that’s objectively better than Reddit, and better is still better—even if it’s not perfect.

So no, I’m not going to stop talking about Lemmy—even if the devs aren’t saints.

RE: https://social.doma.dev/users/jonn/statuses/113956232265278233

lemmy.worldLemmy.World - A generic Lemmy server for everyone to use.

People keep asking which federated #Reddit replacement I recommend.

I like #Mbin.

Here’s why:

Oh yeah, you can follow my Mbin account at @atomicpoet.

RE: https://mstdn.social/users/ChrisCPS/statuses/113955208297313070

Mastodon 🐘ChrisC101 (@ChrisCPS@mstdn.social)@atomicpoet@atomicpoet.org which of those do you recommend?