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@Garry Knight @qurly(not curly)joe This, by the way, is something that next to nobody in the Fediverse knows, and that many will deny and fight with all they can:

Alt-text must never include exclusive information that is neither in the post text nor in the image itself. Such information must always go into the post itself. If you don't have room in the post, add it to a reply or multiple.

That's because not everybody can access alt-text. Certain physical disabilities can make accessing alt-text impossible, for example, if someone can't use their hands. Money quote from way down this comment thread:

Deborah schrieb den folgenden Beitrag Mon, 10 Jul 2023 23:30:45 +0200 @jupiter_rowland

I have a disability that prevents me from seeing alt text, because on almost all platforms, seeing the alt requires having a screenreader or working hands. If you post a picture, is there info that you want somebody who CAN see the picture but DOESN’T have working hands to know? Write that in visible text. If you put that in the alt, you are explicitly excluding people like me.

But you don’t have to overthink it. The description of the image itself is a simple concept.

#Long #LongPost #CWLong #CWLongPost #FediMeta #FediverseMeta #CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #Fediverse #AltText #AltTextMeta #CWAltTextMeta #ImageDescription #ImageDescriptions #ImageDescriptionMeta #CWImageDescriptionMeta #Inclusion #A11y #Accessibility #QuotePost #QuoteTweet #QuoteToot #QuoteBoost
hub.netzgemeinde.euHow far should alt-text for pictures from within virtual worlds go?Super-long rant about accessibility, the length of alt-texts for pictures taken in virtual worlds and incompatibility issues between Mastodon and Hubzilla
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@PaulaToThePeople
Mastodon decided against quote posts so far, so Hubzilla and (streams) should not allow quoting Mastodon posts.

I mean, I could propose to Mike, Mario and Harald to automatically remove the Share button under any and all posts and comments from Mastodon, just to see their reactions.

But as a matter of fact, Pleroma and Akkoma can quote-post Mastodon toots just the same. The same goes for Misskey and its over 50 forks, including but not limited to JavaScript-based Iceshrimp which won't get any new features, Iceshrimp.NET which isn't officially released yet, Sharkey, CherryPick and Catodon. And Friendica can quote-post Mastodon toots, too.

Several dozen Fediverse server projects can quote-post Mastodon toots. They all would have to change. Or they all would have had to change the moment that it was decided that Mastodon lacks quote-posts to protect its users rather than to stay simple.

And where are you reading that Mastodon will reinvent the wheel? To me it reads like they are working on Fediverse-wide interoperability for these features.

That has been Mastodon's track record since its very inception. I won't believe that anything has changed about this until Mastodon actually implements technology introduced by another Fediverse server project.

#Long #LongPost #CWLong #CWLongPost #FediMeta #FediverseMeta #CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #Fediverse #Mastodon #QuotePost #QuotePosts #QuoteTweet #QuoteTweets #QuoteToot #QuoteToots #QuoteBoost #QuoteBoosts #QuotedShares #QuotePostDebate #QuoteTootDebate
hub.netzgemeinde.euNetzgemeinde/Hubzilla
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@PaulaToThePeople It isn't just a matter of consent. Besides, for example, I do have quote-post control here on Hubzilla.

I can give permission to quote-post my posts to
  • everyone in the Fediverse
  • everyone on Hubzilla and (streams)
  • everyone on this hub
  • approved and unapproved connections
  • only approved connections
  • only those of my connections whom I explicitly give permission by contact role
  • nobody but myself

Over on (streams), I can still give that permission to
  • everyone in the Fediverse
  • all my connections
  • only myself + specific connections whom I grant that permission either by permission role or by individual connection settings

It's much more a matter of technology.

Mastodon is about to completely re-invent the wheel with a non-standard, Mastodon-only setting. This setting will only work within Mastodon simply because it probably won't even be documented anywhere, especially not before it's officially rolled out.

There simply is no way that every last instance of Pleroma, Akkoma, Misskey, Calckey, Firefish, Iceshrimp, CherryPick, Catodon, Meisskey, Tanukey, Neko, dozens of other Misskey forks, Friendica, Hubzilla, (streams), Forte etc. etc. will have that setting implemented before Mastodon rolls it out so that even the users on mastodon.social are perfectly safe from the first second on.

Besides, @Mike Macgirvin 🖥️, creator of Friendica, Hubzilla, (streams) and Forte and still the only maintainer of the latter two, will never introduce proprietary Mastodon features to them. He'd rather risk (streams) and Forte becoming incompatible with Mastodon. The same goes for @Mario Vavti and @Harald Eilertsen, Hubzilla's main maintainers.

If Mastodon wants to become a perfectly safe haven against unallowed quote-posting, it has only got one choice: It must introduce something like (streams)' and Forte's user agent filter and use it to block just everything that isn't Mastodon. Like, include a hard-coded allowlist that only includes Mastodon plus what little can't quote or quote-post anyway.

#Long #LongPost #CWLong #CWLongPost #FediMeta #FediverseMeta #CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #Fediverse #Mastodon #Pleroma #Akkoma #Misskey #Forkey #Forkeys #Calckey #Firefish #Iceshrimp #CherryPick #Sharkey #Catodon #Friendica #Hubzilla #Streams #(streams) #Forte #QuotePost #QuotePosts #QuoteTweet #QuoteTweets #QuoteToot #QuoteToots #QuoteBoost #QuoteBoosts #QuotedShares #QuotePostDebate #QuoteTootDebate
hub.netzgemeinde.euNetzgemeinde/Hubzilla
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@PaulaToThePeople @Stefan Bohacek Keep one thing in mind:

Mastodon may not have quote-posts yet. But the Fediverse has quote-posts right now. And it has had them since before Mastodon was made.

Pleroma, Akkoma, Misskey, Calckey, Firefish, Iceshrimp, CherryPick, Catodon, Meisskey, Tanukey, Neko, dozens of other Misskey forks, Friendica, Hubzilla, (streams), Forte etc. etc., they all have quote-posts. They're all fully capable of quote-posting any Mastodon toot.

None of them has introduced quote-posts to harass Twitter refugees on Mastodon. At least Friendica and Hubzilla have had quote-posts since long before Mastodon was even made.

You will be able to choose whether your posts can be quoted at all.

At least by Mastodon users.

But since this will be Mastodon re-inventing the wheel with brand-new, proprietary, Mastodon-only technology, everything I've listed above will still be able to quote-post anyone and anything on Mastodon with zero resistance.

To quote-post myself and the guy who invented Friendica, Hubzilla, (streams) and Forte:

Jupiter Rowland schrieb den folgenden Beitrag Sat, 20 Jul 2024 01:29:11 +0200 I think I've just chased someone out of the Fediverse.

That someone was afraid of Mastodon being "screwed over" by becoming quote-post-able.

I've told him the truth: Mastodon has been quote-post-able for as long as it has been around. Mastodon became quote-post-able the very moment it was launched.

That's because when Mastodon was launched, it immediately federated with Friendica which is from 2010, which had been around for almost six years at that point, and which has had quote-posts from its own inception AFAIK. Mastodon also immediately federated with Hubzilla which has had quote-posts since its own inception, since it had been forked from Friendica, and that was in 2012.

Mastodon has never been un-quote-post-able.

Right now, there are dozens of Fediverse server apps whose users can quote-post Mastodon toots with no resistance.

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Mike Macgirvin 🖥️ schrieb den folgenden Beitrag Sat, 20 Jul 2024 03:18:39 +0200 The closest you'll ever get to making Mastodon un-quote-postable is to post privately. Not unlisted. Private. Most fediverse software will honour this today; and it doesn't require yet another "pretend permission". Like unlisted.

And Mike should know. He brought things to the Fediverse like actually working permissions. Including permissions on two levels to quote-post any content on a channel. Readily available right now at least on Hubzilla, (streams) and Forte.

Also, this is what people on Friendica and its descendants have been using quote-posts for since 2010.

You will be notified when someone quotes you.

You already are when someone on Friendica, Hubzilla, (streams) or Forte quote-posts one of your posts.

As for Pleroma, Misskey and their forks, you aren't notified right now, and I've got my doubts that you will be after this change.

Also, "quote" and "quote-post" are two different things. Friendica, Hubzilla, (streams) and Forte can do both. "Quote" is what I'm doing right here. Whether or not you're notified depends on whether or not you're mentioned.

And blocking quotes is even less possible. A quote only consists of a pair of BBcode tags plus the quoted text in-between. And on Friendica and all its descendants, you don't work with a WYSIWYG editor by default, but you have to get your hands dirty on raw markup code.

You will be able to withdraw your post from the quoted context at any time.

Again, probably not if someone on Pleroma, Misskey or one of their forks quote-posts you.

And definitely not if someone on Friendica or one of its descendants quote-posts you.

The difference is that a quote-post on Pleroma, Misskey or one of their forks is actually a reference to the original. On Friendica and its descendants, a quote-post is an automatically generated dumb copy of the original.

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They're winning.

They have no compelling reason to do that.

Putin needs to rebuild his military after Trump surrenders Ukraine to him.

China needs to match U.S. naval power while it still has a population young enough to do that.

#america #russia #china #news

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@axios
Trump is looking to convince the U.S. adversaries to cut their defense spending while also getting them to commit to denuclearization. t.co/MJLtvtaT0p

Axios · Trump wants U.S., China and Russia to cut military spending in halfBy Sareen Habeshian
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Fascists don't care how many people must suffer and die as they act out their sick fantasies, which they need to promote in order to keep their followers mesmerized and distracted.

And I cannot help but think of chapter 13 in Revelation:

And I saw a beast rising out of the sea, with ten horns and seven heads, with ten diadems on its horns and blasphemous names on its heads. 2 And the beast that I saw was like a leopard; its feet were like a bear's, and its mouth was like a lion's mouth. And to it the dragon gave his power and his throne and great authority. 3 One of its heads seemed to have a mortal wound, but its mortal wound was healed, and the whole earth marveled as they followed the beast. 4 And they worshiped the dragon, for he had given his authority to the beast, and they worshiped the beast, saying, “Who is like the beast, and who can fight against it?”

5 And the beast was given a mouth uttering haughty and blasphemous words, and it was allowed to exercise authority for forty-two months. 6 It opened its mouth to utter blasphemies against God, blaspheming his name and his dwelling,[a] that is, those who dwell in heaven. 7 Also it was allowed to make war on the saints and to conquer them.[b] And authority was given it over every tribe and people and language and nation, 8 and all who dwell on earth will worship it, everyone whose name has not been written before the foundation of the world in the book of life of the Lamb who was slain. 

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@dymaxion
With the "shutdown" of USAID, the State department has ordered an emergency evacuation of all staff from over a hundred countries by Saturday. In their wake they will leave massive chaos. USAID feeds 53 million people a year, among other things. Many, many people are dying because of this, and many countries will never trust the US again.

USAID is a major part of American international soft power. The damage that this is causing can only be described as treasonous, even ignoring the human cost.

To be clear, this evacuation is impossible. Doing it from one country is very hard. Doing it everywhere all at once, even with all available military airlift assets, cannot happen. Regardless, on whatever schedule they do do this, this is not a normal international move. They are telling staff who in some cases have been in country for decades or who expected to be their for the rest of their careers that they have 48 hours to pack suitcases and leave everything else they own behind, to return to a country where they have no where to live and no job.

But then, that's the point.

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This does not look like an environmentally-friendly technology. How are they going to produce all that electricity and what are they going to do with all the excess heat?

#climatechange #computing #technology #datacenters #quantum

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@arstechnica
Why every quantum computer will need a powerful classical computer

Error-correcting a quantum computer will mean processing 100TB every second.

arstechnica.com/science/2024/0

Ars Technica · Why every quantum computer will need a powerful classical computerError-correcting a quantum computer will mean processing 100TB every second.
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This stupid law has done nothing but harm people and enrich greedy corporations. It did not in ANY WAY protect or encourage "innovation" in technology. That's a FUCKING LIE so don't even bother replying to me with your lame long-debunked arguments about innovation.

We innovated just fine without granting free license to online companies to ignore their ToS and abuse policies.
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@arstechnica
Lawmakers say Section 230 repeal will protect children—opponents predict chaos

Repeal bill is bipartisan but has opponents from across the political spectrum.

arstechnica.com/tech-policy/20

arstechnica.comPolicy | Ars TechnicaServing the Technologist for more than a decade. IT news, reviews, and analysis.
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ublacklist does the trick.

chromewebstore.google.com/deta

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SERIOUS INQUIRY: Does anyone know of a browser extension (preferably available in the Google Extensions Store) that filters out IMDB, Quora, Reddit and StackExchange from #Google's SERPs? I'm fed up with seeing bullshit answers to queries.

chromewebstore.google.comuBlacklist - Chrome Web StoreBlocks sites you specify from appearing in Google search results
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It won't deescalate the violence.

In 2005 Israeli PM Ariel Sharon withdrew all Israeli forces and settlements from Gaza.

The Gazans responded by bringing Hamas back and giving them political power. Hamas subsequently drove out their Fatah rivals (with violence).

How was Israel responsible for that?

In 2008 Ehud Ohlmert offered to recognize a fully independent Palestinian state with complete Israeli withdrawal from the West Bank and the construction of a tunnel to connect Gaza with the West Bank.

Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas rejected the offer (and only admitted to doing so in 2015).

Israel has TRIED to make peace with the Palestinians.

The Palestinians chose to keep the conflict going.

Acknowledge those facts, George, or stand down.

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@georgetakei

The Israeli government has cut off food, water, and fuel to 2 million people inside Gaza as part of its campaign to stamp out Hamas terrorism. Collective punishment is not only contrary to international law, it is inhumane and illogical. It is what my community once endured in World War II, all because of the actions of others who happened to share our ethnicity. Have we learned nothing? How will this possibly help deescalate the violence rather than radicalize many more? It is madness.

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@adrienne @siderea @isagalaev @jwz

This would be the best solution, imo.

Outright *deleting* other people's writing is sacrilegious to me as a writer and an editor. It gives the OP control over someone else's feed and the ability to destroy someone else's work, rather than merely lessening the boost ratio (which severing from the OP would do more than well enough).

To me, it's like saying, "I don't like the books in your personal library, so I should have the right to come in your home and take them."

My feed is my feed. Keep your mitts off of it.

If you want folks to be able to #QuoteToot / #QT, that's another subject.

Working from home is an act of reclamation. I shed not one single tear for the end of the abuse that going to an office enables (paying for each day's travel, constant interruptions, terrible work environments designed by executives who don't feel the pain of these environments, etc.)

Rezone that office space as residential and do something about housing affordability.

#QuoteToot

fosstodon.org/@djlink@mastodon

Gamedev MastodonDavid Amador (@djlink@mastodon.gamedev.place)Attached: 1 image Nature is healing