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The XMPP Software Foundation has published an open letter to Meta, asking them to support true messaging interoperability using the XMPP protocol.

Meta had previously integrated this protocol, and WhatsApp is actually built on XMPP for its message routing system.

We support this initiative as it represents the best approach for genuine interoperability. Federation is the way to go !

Learn more by reading the open letter: xmpp.org/announcements/open-le

xmpp.orgXMPPXMPP - The universal messaging standard
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"That’s the fun part about the fediverse — it’s a lot of old ideas about the web being open and interoperable, but there’s still a lot of new things yet to be invented on top of that foundation. At this point I’m not sure any social platform that launches without an eye towards federation stands a chance, really."

#NilayPatel, April 2024

theverge.com/2024/4/22/2413729

Illustration of the fediverse surrounding the Earth like a constellation.
The Verge · Newsletter platform Ghost adopts ActivityPub to ‘bring back the open web’By Nilay Patel
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@HistoPol @thevril @pluralistic

#XMPP is used by billions of people in the closed, non-free manifestation of Whatsapp, Google FCM, and applications like Zoom, Fortnite, Grindr, and many more. At least, that shows us, that the techology works.

XMPP or #Jabber in the sense of an open and free #federation is a niche, indeed. Network effect, lack of marketing and very often lack of appealing client design are to blame. Jabber just does not have multi million VC funding.

Little known fact: @evan and I worked at a startup in 2020 that never launched. It wasn't a great experience for me, but I loved the team we had hired, including Evan. I didn't know much then about #activitypub or the social web.

I went back to @Flipboard in 2021 and in 2023 I started to learn about #federation because of @mike's vision. Fast forward to 2025, Flipboard + @surf are organizing #SXSW's first #FediverseHouse. Evan was one of the first people to sign on, which created a snowball from there, which helped the event be a success.

This week, we got to meet IRL for the first time! So when I think about "the purpose" of that hard 10 months at that startup, I now know what it was.

@newyorktimes's veteran tech reporter @Markoff interviewed some of #TeamFediverse including @Gargron, @reckless1280 and our CEO @mike for a feature on the rise of decentralized social media. “It goes back to the original principles where the internet started out as decentralized,” Eugen Rochko told Markoff. Here's the full story [may be paywalled].

We're so excited to develop these conversations further at SXSW this weekend — check out the itinerary and sign up to join us at #FediverseHouse at the second link.

flip.it/NcjhLL

lu.ma/xbve5fa0

Mike McCue, the chief executive of Flipboard, sees its new Surf browser as a tool to help internet users communicate without relying on a single centralized service.
The New York Times · Facing the Looming Threat of A.I., Publishers Turn to Decentralized PlatformsBy John Markoff

Dites les gens, je voudrais créer un ticket sur codeberg, mais je dois créer un compte ou me connecter via gitlab ou github.
On m'avait fait comprendre que codeberg se base sur forgejo et que c'est un truc fédéré. Et donc je pensais naïvement que je pouvais utiliser un autre compte forgejo.
On m'aurait trompé ?

#codeberg is #GoodEnough to replace #Github and #Gitlab for 95% of your FOSS projects, IMHO. Or you can take it to the next level and run your own #Forgejo instance as a (rootless) container, completely self-contained. And (hopefully) soon we will see more #federation features in #Forgejo, leading to a decentralised network of forges that can talk to each other to form a sustainable and resilient global network. (FTR: I've been running my Forgejo instance since 1.5 years now, no problems) 1/6

@Linux_Is_Best

Thanks for adding IM to your lists!

However, so far only centralised silos, walled gardens are listed. I suggest to add at least #Quicksy by @daniel, which is hosted at Hetzner in DE, and is part of the #Jabber/#XMPP #federation.

quicksy.im/

(Thanks for mentioning TeleGuard. Never heard of it before. I'm an IM collector 🙂)

QuicksyQuicksyA spin-off of the popular Jabber/XMPP client Conversations with automatic contact discovery. Sign up with your phone number and Quicksy will automatically—based on the phone numbers in your address book—suggest possible contacts to you.
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Tech is political, yes. Let’s unpack the key *political* concepts behind *technical* features that indicate a good sign (singular because they have to be complete) for platforms:
1. #Decentralization - expression of celebrating multiple cultures. For-profit organizations will do their best to dilute this concept because multiple voices are harder to sell
2. #Federation - the layer on top of decentralization that allows interaction between cultures; it facilitates “crossing borders”
3. #SelfHosting - empowering individuals and communities to have sovereignty on their digital lives

(A quick joke logo for my latest idea.)

It is about using the Danish tradition for self-organisation and coop to create associations that has decentralised social network.

Everybody can help!

The discussion is in #Danish and can be seen here:

https://hub.volse.no/channel/katharsisdrill?mid=ada91ebd-b398-487d-b61c-0c6604e9fdbc

https://hub.volse.no/channel/katharsisdrill?mid=068ed0f7-6363-4711-82b5-1b89bb40e319

#federation #folkeføderation #denmark