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davecykl<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@larstransportworld" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>larstransportworld</span></a></span> That’s a great map (and definitely all due credit to France), but it’s also a very depressing reminder that, over 40 years since the <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/LGV" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>LGV</span></a> network started, the •entirety• of the <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/UK" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>UK</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/HighSpeedRail" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>HighSpeedRail</span></a> network still fits in a corner of the French map! 😢</p><p>(Haphazard progress is being made on a savagely truncated <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/HS2" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>HS2</span></a> route, and at least we do have fairly extensive <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/MediumSpeedRail" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>MediumSpeedRail</span></a> (200 km/h max) service on many InterCity routes, but it is beyond ridiculous that UK is so far behind.)</p>
Rastal<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://eupolicy.social/@jmaris" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>jmaris</span></a></span> Does he not understand it's America, with it's 0 km of high speed rail, that has been behind endlessly sabotaging high speed rail initiatives in other countries?! </p><p><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/hs2" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>hs2</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/beltandroad" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>beltandroad</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/italy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>italy</span></a></p>
Sam Easterby-Smith<p>I co-wrote an article about trains - and why the Green Party changed its policy to be in favour of HS2.</p><p>If we hope to decarbonise transport - we’ve got to build railways 👍</p><p>Meanwhile Labour are (so far as anyone can tell) sticking with the hobbled plan of only doing London to Birmingham. </p><p><a href="https://mastodon.green/tags/greens4HS2" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>greens4HS2</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.green/tags/HS2" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>HS2</span></a></p><p><a href="https://northwestbylines.co.uk/business/transport/real-hope-real-trains-green-party-hs2/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">northwestbylines.co.uk/busines</span><span class="invisible">s/transport/real-hope-real-trains-green-party-hs2/</span></a></p>
the magnificent rhys<p>Hell yes! </p><p>It looks like Sunak's axing of phase 2a will be reversed, with <a href="https://mastodon.rhys.wtf/tags/HS2" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>HS2</span></a> running from Euston right through to Crewe!</p><p>Usual drivel from the lunatic-right Taxpayers' Alliance opposing it in the commentary, but this sounds firm.</p><p><a href="https://mastodon.rhys.wtf/tags/UKPolitics" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>UKPolitics</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.rhys.wtf/tags/UKPol" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>UKPol</span></a> </p><p><a href="https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/hs2-london-euston-to-crewe-labour/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">lbc.co.uk/news/hs2-london-eust</span><span class="invisible">on-to-crewe-labour/</span></a></p>
Emeritus Prof Christopher May<p>The Govt, is launching a review into HS2, with the express intent of gauging whether the problems in the large (but slowly shrinking) infrastructure project might be better resolved under direct ministerial control....</p><p>While you can draw your own conclusions about the ability of Whitehall to manage &amp; deliver such a project.... many will be hoping that a review might re-install the Northern reaches of the project.... while others may hope a review will close it down</p><p><a href="https://zirk.us/tags/railways" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>railways</span></a> <a href="https://zirk.us/tags/HS2" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>HS2</span></a> <br>h/t FT</p>
Emeritus Prof Christopher May<p>Richard Bilton (as an aside, I remember him when he was a cub reporter on local/regional TV) sets out the debacle of HS2 in a summary narrative that still has the capacity (no pun intended -see conclusion of piece) to shock when it comes to the monumental waste of money, which could have been spent on a better/more pragmatic upgrade of the relevant railway lines....</p><p>Once again (as I posted a while ago) delays for review raised costs...</p><p><a href="https://zirk.us/tags/HS2" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>HS2</span></a> <a href="https://zirk.us/tags/railways" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>railways</span></a> <a href="https://zirk.us/tags/politics" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>politics</span></a> </p><p><a href="https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c98486dzxnzo" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c98486</span><span class="invisible">dzxnzo</span></a></p>
Ned ‘Jonathan’ Schofield<p>…It’s an open question as to how much less fragile will prove to be less fragile enough and therefore *more appropriate*. </p><p>My hunch is that the threshold of resilient scale and speed will be much much lower than we think.</p><p>I’ve been making variations of this point online for at least 16 years, but the dial has barely shifted </p><p>2/n</p><p><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/hs2" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>hs2</span></a></p>
Peter Nimmo<p>Finally! The England and Wales <a href="https://mastodon.scot/tags/Green" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Green</span></a> Party decide in favour of <a href="https://mastodon.scot/tags/HS2" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>HS2</span></a> after all. But possibly the damage has already been done to the prospect of high speed <a href="https://mastodon.scot/tags/rail" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>rail</span></a> in the <a href="https://mastodon.scot/tags/UK" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>UK</span></a><br><a href="https://greenparty.org.uk/2024/09/08/the-north-must-benefit-from-hs2-say-greens/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">greenparty.org.uk/2024/09/08/t</span><span class="invisible">he-north-must-benefit-from-hs2-say-greens/</span></a></p>
Dan<p><a href="https://www.politico.eu/article/uk-rail-minister-peter-hendy-fired-gareth-dennis-engineer-safety-concerns-trains-london-euston-station/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">politico.eu/article/uk-rail-mi</span><span class="invisible">nister-peter-hendy-fired-gareth-dennis-engineer-safety-concerns-trains-london-euston-station/</span></a></p><p>UK rail minister decides to make a legitimate safety concern that Euston Station could be the next Hillsborough "go away" by ensuring the person raising the concern was fired!</p><p><a href="https://mastodonapp.uk/tags/ukpol" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ukpol</span></a> <a href="https://mastodonapp.uk/tags/rail" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>rail</span></a> <a href="https://mastodonapp.uk/tags/euston" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>euston</span></a> <a href="https://mastodonapp.uk/tags/HS2" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>HS2</span></a> <a href="https://mastodonapp.uk/tags/engineering" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>engineering</span></a> <a href="https://mastodonapp.uk/tags/ethics" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ethics</span></a> <a href="https://mastodonapp.uk/tags/Hillsborough" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Hillsborough</span></a><br><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://gruene.social/@jon" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>jon</span></a></span></p>
Jessie (they/she) 🍓 🏳️‍⚧️ 🍉<p>The impact this could have is huge. If tickets were cheap or free, AND had access to high speed rail... Not only would there be little to no cost financially, there would be little cost to time spent travelling too.</p><p>Imagine what this could mean for different communities to connect together. How much easier this would make family life, love life and maintaining our friendships?</p><p>The possibilities are endless. The fact that we have decided to scrap <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/HS2" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>HS2</span></a> is a travesty.</p>
Jamie Scott<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://zirk.us/@ChrisMayLA6" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>ChrisMayLA6</span></a></span> If only there was a project to build a bypass for the most congested bits of the WCML...</p><p>(Yse, they should reinstate the cancelled bits of <a href="https://mastodon.scot/tags/HS2" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>HS2</span></a>. And start the planning for a Phase 3 to Glasgow/Edinburgh to get the maximum benefit from the line)</p>
Gaffer<p>What is your favourite <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://harrystyl.es/@harrystyles" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>harrystyles</span></a></span> album right now?</p><p><a href="https://harrystyl.es/tags/HarryStyles" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>HarryStyles</span></a> <a href="https://harrystyl.es/tags/Music" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Music</span></a> <a href="https://harrystyl.es/tags/Poll" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Poll</span></a> <a href="https://harrystyl.es/tags/PopMusic" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>PopMusic</span></a> <a href="https://harrystyl.es/tags/HS1" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>HS1</span></a> <a href="https://harrystyl.es/tags/HS2" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>HS2</span></a> <a href="https://harrystyl.es/tags/HS3" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>HS3</span></a></p>
Jon PENNYCOOK<p>From 2019:-</p><p>'A scrapped “emerald necklace” cycleway up the spine of the country alongside HS2 would have delivered a return on investment of up to five times greater than the rail project itself, an FoI request has revealed – but neither the government nor HS2 Ltd will fund it.'</p><p><a href="https://www.theguardian.com/environment/bike-blog/2019/feb/01/scrapped-hs2-bike-path-could-have-reaped-five-times-more-than-hs2-itself" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">theguardian.com/environment/bi</span><span class="invisible">ke-blog/2019/feb/01/scrapped-hs2-bike-path-could-have-reaped-five-times-more-than-hs2-itself</span></a></p><p>'economic benefits of between £3 and £8 per £1 spent.'</p><p><a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/cycling" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>cycling</span></a> <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/biketooter" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>biketooter</span></a> <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/biketodon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>biketodon</span></a> <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/UK" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>UK</span></a> <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/politics" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>politics</span></a> <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/HS2" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>HS2</span></a> <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/rail" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>rail</span></a> <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/railway" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>railway</span></a> <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/train" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>train</span></a> <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/trains" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>trains</span></a> <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/railways" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>railways</span></a> <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Conservatives" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Conservatives</span></a> <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Conservative" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Conservative</span></a> <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Tory" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Tory</span></a> <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Tories" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Tories</span></a></p>
JdeBP<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodonapp.uk/@keefeglise" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>keefeglise</span></a></span> </p><p>Coventry Pool Meadow and Birmingham New Street?</p><p>You can entertain yourself by counting how many times you cross some <a href="https://mastodonapp.uk/tags/HS2" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>HS2</span></a> works. (-:</p><p><a href="https://mastodonapp.uk/tags/PublicTransport" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>PublicTransport</span></a> <a href="https://mastodonapp.uk/tags/Leeds" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Leeds</span></a></p>
Lazarou Monkey Terror 🚀💙🌈<p>Awww, we'd like to trust you on that but you've not really earned that trust, what will all the pledges you break. <br>Do you see how that works lads, how 'Trust' works? It doesn't come from insulting critics and talking over them. </p><p><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Labour" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Labour</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/HS2" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>HS2</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/UKPOL" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>UKPOL</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/UKPolitics" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>UKPolitics</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/GE2024" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>GE2024</span></a></p>
Walter Menteth<p><a href="https://mas.to/tags/UK" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>UK</span></a> <a href="https://mas.to/tags/aviation" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>aviation</span></a> <a href="https://mas.to/tags/emissions" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>emissions</span></a> are - <br>Equal to those of 9 <a href="https://mas.to/tags/coal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>coal</span></a> plants, Deliver <a href="https://mas.to/tags/NOx" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>NOx</span></a> &amp; PM2.5 <a href="https://mas.to/tags/pollution" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>pollution</span></a> equivalent to 4.6m cars... <br>of which 5.8k tonnes NOx is from Heathrow<br>&amp; a staggering roughly 20% is from short haul flights. </p><p>airporttracker.org<br>Build <a href="https://mas.to/tags/HS2" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>HS2</span></a> to Scotland please</p>
Emeritus Prof Christopher May<p>Quite apart from anything else, <a href="https://zirk.us/tags/HS2" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>HS2</span></a> seems to be a case of looking glass <a href="https://zirk.us/tags/economics" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>economics</span></a>.... every time the project's extent is reduced (in length &amp; scope), the budget rises.... perhaps if they agreed to build the whole original thing it would become much cheaper??</p>
Steve Woods<p><span class="h-card"><a href="https://zirk.us/@ChrisMayLA6" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>ChrisMayLA6</span></a></span> The original <a href="https://mastodonapp.uk/tags/HS2" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>HS2</span></a> scheme was far more ambitious than Old Oak Common to Manchester...</p>
Emeritus Prof Christopher May<p>When the <a href="https://zirk.us/tags/northern" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>northern</span></a> stretch of <a href="https://zirk.us/tags/HS2" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>HS2</span></a> was canned last year, there was a widely held view that a swift sell-off of compulsory purchased land on route would make reviving the <a href="https://zirk.us/tags/rail" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>rail</span></a> project impossible &amp; the sales would hand handy profits to the 'friends of Rishi'.</p><p>However, it now seems (as always) things have moved much more slowly, and no land sales are likely before the election, leaving Labour (if elected) the option to reviving HS2 North.</p><p>Whether that's a good or bad thing is another matter!</p>
Emeritus Prof Christopher May<p>How do you inflame <a href="https://zirk.us/tags/Northern" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Northern</span></a> <a href="https://zirk.us/tags/voters" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>voters</span></a> (again)?</p><p>By announcing that the money that has been saved by binning large elements of <a href="https://zirk.us/tags/HS2" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>HS2</span></a> &amp; replacing it with the hodgepodge of fragmented projects in the (so-called) Network North is now going to be spent on filling potholes in <a href="https://zirk.us/tags/London" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>London</span></a>. </p><p>Wrong on (the claimed strategy of) <a href="https://zirk.us/tags/LevllingUp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>LevllingUp</span></a>;</p><p>Wrong on <a href="https://zirk.us/tags/publictransport" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>publictransport</span></a> for a <a href="https://zirk.us/tags/greentrnasition" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>greentrnasition</span></a>, and</p><p>surly a miscalculation if trying to keep 'new' Northern Tories on side.</p><p>But would we have expected anything else?</p>