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I don't know which boundaries are "correct", but as an observation, Stryd's are more uniform than TrainingPeaks.

It seems TrainingPeaks is more forgiving on what counts as productive training. But TrainingPeaks is also stricter on "race readiness", giving you a tighter window to make sure you're not losing fitness.

Both platforms have thousands of users. I'd be interested to heard the arguments from both on why they chose the boundaries they did.

I'm raining for the Grand Canyon R2R2R. Curious about the productivity of my training, I plotted it.

As a runner, I train primarily by power using my Stryd foot pod. As such, Stryd will score each run with a running stress score. I can then calculate the weighted and unweighted rolling 7-day and 42-day averages. From there, I can get the stress balance.

Stryd defines their productivity training boundaries different than TrainingPeaks. Here are both side-by-side.

Replied to Aaron Toponce ⚛️:debian:

@atoponce Thank you very much for sharing
This commemorates Peter Greif, winner of the 1984 #marathon for Fat People in 2:33hr, organized by Manfred Steffny. He is the older brother of Herbert Steffny, who won Bronze at the 1984 NYC Marathon.
Peter Greif was one of the best marathon trainers and his training plans are still used today. Unfortunately, everything is in German.
If the sub 3hr are in you then a trainer like Peter Greif would squeeze it out. #running #RunnersOfMastodon

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I dumped my coach in November, mostly for financial reasons, but also due to the fact that he's anti-data and anti-tech. He's very much a pro-RPE acolyte. It doesn't vibe with my math and data analysis brain.

I'm #running the Chicago Marathon this October and will be following a power-based training plan by Steve Palladino. His plan includes V̇O₂ max workouts, supra-threshold, sub-threshold, HMP, MP, and lots of easy running.

I'm curious to see how my RSB falls out.

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Here is my running stress balance while coached. This is found by scoring each run with a stress score, finding a rolling 7-day average ("fatigue"), a rolling 42-day average ("fitness"), and calculating "fatigue minus fitness".

Notice the time spent in the Maintenance band of training versus the time in Productive.

This is frustrating, because hiring a coach is expensive. I want to see progress, but it didn't happen, and I now know why.

#running #RunnersOfMastodon

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From Dec 1, 2022 to Dec 1, 2024 I was coached for attempting a sub-3 hour marathon. My PR up to that point was 3:21:31. However, the best my coach could get out of me during this time was 3:12:09.

As the training was progressing, I was skeptical that he was pushing me as hard as he could. Many of the workouts, while challenging, were achievable.

I tried suggesting adjustments, such as V̇O₂ max workouts and running doubles, but they fell on deaf ears.

#running #RunnersOfMastodon

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