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KrisLooks like the <a class="hashtag" href="https://outmo.de/tag/kaidan" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Kaidan</a> <a class="hashtag" href="https://outmo.de/tag/xmpp" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#xmpp</a> client is finally getting MUC support: <a href="https://nlnet.nl/project/Kaidan-MUC/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://nlnet.nl/project/Kaidan-MUC/</a> Really great news! Thanks to <a class="hashtag" href="https://outmo.de/tag/nlnet" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#nlnet</a> for supporting this work.

JoinJabberAfter the Code of Conduct and the Mediation process, the Core Governance document is now ready for wider feedback.This document describes what JoinJabber does and what we aim to achieve. It also describes what our values are and a way to make proposals to the entire community.Feel free to share and read/respond to the document. <a href="https://codeberg.org/joinjabber/collective/src/branch/governance/Governance/Governance.md" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://codeberg.org/joinjabber/collective/src/branch/governance/Governance/Governance.md</a><a href="https://indieweb.social/tags/xmpp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#xmpp</a> <a href="https://indieweb.social/tags/permacomputing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#permacomputing</a> <a href="https://indieweb.social/tags/consent" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#consent</a> <a href="https://indieweb.social/tags/jabber" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#jabber</a>

K. LymilarkSo I'm kinda wondering, since I used to use Kik for this, are there any decent <a href="https://thicc.horse/tags/nsfw" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#nsfw</a> chatrooms on <a href="https://thicc.horse/tags/xmpp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#xmpp</a>?

XMPP ProvidersWe decided to create a small <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/survey" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#survey</a> on our <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#XMPP</a> Providers project and invite server operators to send their feedback!<a href="https://app.formbricks.com/s/cm9mttsv7eq8uw701thuzqysb" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://app.formbricks.com/s/cm9mttsv7eq8uw701thuzqysb</a>It should not take longer than 2 minutes. The survey is open until 1st May 2025.Looking forward to hear from you. Let's thrive true <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/federation" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#federation</a>!:xmpp:

Pirate Praveen<a href="https://social.masto.host/tags/Prav" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Prav</a> stall at <a href="https://social.masto.host/tags/MumbaiFOSS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#MumbaiFOSS</a> Happy to see <a href="https://venera.social/profile/prav" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@prav</a> presence at various <a href="https://social.masto.host/tags/FreeSoftware" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#FreeSoftware</a> events around India.Thanks to <a href="https://mas.to/@fossunited" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@fossunited</a> for organizing these events and giving us a chance to present Prav.<a href="https://social.masto.host/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#XMPP</a> <a href="https://social.masto.host/tags/opensource" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#opensource</a> <a href="https://social.masto.host/tags/foss" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#foss</a> <a href="https://mastodon.sdf.org/@bady" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@bady</a> <a href="https://aana.site/@kannan" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@kannan</a> <a href="https://en.osm.town/@contrapunctus" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@contrapunctus</a> <a href="https://fediverse.pra9.com/@fediverse" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@fediverse</a>

erebionToday I migrated my mother to XMPP.Using <a href="https://fosstodon.org/@snikket_im" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@snikket_im</a> for a new server.She doesn't know what <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#XMPP</a> is, but it just works.⭐ 5/5 Smooth set up and migration

JamesGood news, everybody! (And by 'everybody' I mean fans of <a href="https://expressional.social/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#XMPP</a>, <a href="https://expressional.social/tags/Prosody" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Prosody</a> (the XMPP software) and <a href="https://expressional.social/tags/Yunohost" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Yunohost</a>)It was announced five days ago that anubister's spin of Prosody for Yunohost is going to become the official Yunohost version "next weekend" (which I take to mean this weekend, i.e. tomorrow and Sunday).<a href="https://forum.yunohost.org/t/prosody-xmpp-server-for-yunohost-12/29128/14" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://forum.yunohost.org/t/prosody-xmpp-server-for-yunohost-12/29128/14</a>

alephoto85 :endeavourOS: :netbsd: :freebsd: :xmpp:Ok, ok, la cosa mi sta sfuggendo di mano ma ho aperto una nuova Muc XMPP dedicata alla fotografia e all'arte contemporanea. Se siete interessantз... xmpp:fotografia@conference.magicbroccoli.de?join== <a href="https://fedi.bobadin.icu/tags/fotografia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#fotografia</a> <a href="https://fedi.bobadin.icu/tags/artecontemporanea" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#artecontemporanea</a> <a href="https://fedi.bobadin.icu/tags/xmpp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#xmpp</a> <a href="https://fedi.bobadin.icu/tags/xmppit" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#xmppit</a> <a href="https://fedi.bobadin.icu/tags/xmppitalia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#xmppitalia</a> <a href="https://fedi.bobadin.icu/tags/chat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#chat</a>

GajimGajim 2.1.1 has been released 🥳 This release brings layout improvements to Gajim’s Start Chat dialog, an improved message search, and includes fixes for some issues with Message Displayed Synchronization.Thank you for all your contributions! ❤️ Support Gajim's development: <a href="https://liberapay.com/Gajim" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://liberapay.com/Gajim</a><a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/gajim" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#gajim</a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/xmpp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#xmpp</a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/chat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#chat</a> <a href="https://gajim.org/post/2025-04-17-gajim-2.1.1-released/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://gajim.org/post/2025-04-17-gajim-2.1.1-released/</a>

Debacle<a href="https://piaille.fr/@movim" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@movim</a> <a href="https://chrastecky.dev/u/dominik" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@dominik</a>Note, that <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/OMEMO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#OMEMO</a> has been taken directly from Signal, only adapted for <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#XMPP</a>.Most modern <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/Jabber" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Jabber</a> clients default to OMEMO for one-to-one conversations nowadays. For private groups, I believe, users still have to enable it explicitely.I'm not aware of any public Jabber server that would still accept non-TLS connections, so you have both transport <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/encryption" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#encryption</a> and <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/e2ee" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#e2ee</a>.

Movim<a href="https://chrastecky.dev/u/dominik" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@dominik</a> It's fun that <a href="https://piaille.fr/tags/Matrix" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Matrix</a> is quoted in the article and not <a href="https://piaille.fr/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#XMPP</a> indeed. We do have standardized interoperability, several working servers, and a couple of clients that can do chat and social-networking (that Matrix doesn't do... yet ?).<a href="https://framapiaf.org/@debacle" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@debacle</a>

Mike Kuketz 🛡Sobald man öffentlich über Messenger spricht, kommen sie aus ihren Löchern: Trolle, Möchtegern-Experten und Dogmatiker. Differenz? Unerwünscht. Halbwissen? Pflicht. Ich hab mir mal den Frust von der Seele geschrieben – über das Elend der Diskussionen rund um sichere Kommunikation. 👇<a href="https://www.kuketz-blog.de/die-messenger-debatte-ist-kaputt/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://www.kuketz-blog.de/die-messenger-debatte-ist-kaputt/</a><a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/messenger" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#messenger</a> <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/signal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#signal</a> <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/threema" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#threema</a> <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/matrix" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#matrix</a> <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/xmpp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#xmpp</a> <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/whatsapp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#whatsapp</a> <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/briar" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#briar</a>

Mike Kuketz 🛡Die Messenger-Debatte ist kaputt 👇<a href="https://www.kuketz-blog.de/die-messenger-debatte-ist-kaputt/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://www.kuketz-blog.de/die-messenger-debatte-ist-kaputt/</a><a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/messenger" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#messenger</a> <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/signal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#signal</a> <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/threema" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#threema</a> <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/matrix" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#matrix</a> <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/xmpp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#xmpp</a> <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/briar" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#briar</a> <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/whatsapp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#whatsapp</a>

froxAlso, there's a rush of running away from <a href="https://tooting.ch/tags/WhatsApp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#WhatsApp</a> because of <a href="https://tooting.ch/tags/Meta" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Meta</a> and the US government. But <a href="https://tooting.ch/tags/Signal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Signal</a> is also US-based, runs on US infrastructure (<a href="https://tooting.ch/tags/Amazon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Amazon</a> cloud), is dependent on US government funding. Most importantly, they can decide to completely change any aspect of their service at any point in time. Out of the frying pan into the fire. Meanwhile, people are happily building and hosting the <a href="https://tooting.ch/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#XMPP</a> ecosystem

Daniel Gultsch<a href="https://gultsch.social/tags/Conversations_im" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Conversations_im</a> has the ability to fetch outage status information from an independent server and display that in case the regular <a href="https://gultsch.social/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#XMPP</a> server can not be reached.This is powered by XEP-0455 (<a href="https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0455.html" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0455.html</a>). TLDR: Server gives client a URL to a JSON file during normal connects, client will hold on to that URL and fetch the JSON file in case server is unreachable.

froxThe <a href="https://tooting.ch/tags/encryption" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#encryption</a> topic in <a href="https://tooting.ch/tags/InstantMesaging" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#InstantMesaging</a> is popular again recently. As usual there's a lot of misunderstanding and little discussion of a <a href="https://tooting.ch/tags/ThreatModel" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ThreatModel</a> when giving recommendations. If the private key is backed up with Apple or Google from your phone, then your messages may as well not be encrypted 🙈 I've again seen this indirectly with contacts changing phones and their keys are the same as on their old device. Due to automatic backups I guess. Doesn't matter if it's <a href="https://tooting.ch/tags/WhatsApp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#WhatsApp</a>, <a href="https://tooting.ch/tags/Signal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Signal</a> or <a href="https://tooting.ch/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#XMPP</a>

∆¥~ BIZZERØ ~¥∆what's a good <a href="https://wetdry.world/tags/xmpp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#xmpp</a> client on Android?

Niklas KorzDigging more into the <a href="https://rheinneckar.social/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#XMPP</a> ecosystem and <a href="https://toot.io/@prose" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@prose</a> looks really promising. All open source too under the MPL 2.0 license (and MIT, for the <a href="https://fosstodon.org/@prosodyim" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@prosodyim</a> server extensions), and the XMPP client code is nicely abstracted into a <a href="https://rheinneckar.social/tags/RustLang" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#RustLang</a> crate.<a href="https://github.com/prose-im/prose-core-client" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://github.com/prose-im/prose-core-client</a>

Manu<a href="https://social.manu.quebec/tags/adminsys" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#AdminSys</a>, quel serveur <a href="https://social.manu.quebec/tags/xmpp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#XMPP</a> me conseillez-vous d'installer sur un petit VPS pour une utilisation mono-utilisateur? J'ai environ 900 Mo de RAM maximum à lui allouer. Je veux faire rouler ça dans un conteneur <a href="https://social.manu.quebec/tags/docker" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#docker</a>. Idéalement sans BdD, ou alors SQLite.

Hippo 🍉The EU is mandating messaging apps be compatible with each other, but the current plan is looking less like <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/federation" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#federation</a> and more like "register your chat app with Meta, send them all your data, and link with their prescribed APIs that they may decide to change any day"At the risk of preaching to the converted, here's <a href="https://toot.igniterealtime.org/@guusdk" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@guusdk</a> advocating for *real* interoperability between messaging apps, using an existing, battle-tested, <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/IETF" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#IETF</a>-backed standard: <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#XMPP</a>! :xmpp:<a href="https://discourse.igniterealtime.org/t/it-s-time-for-real-interoperability-let-s-make-it-happen/95342" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://discourse.igniterealtime.org/t/it-s-time-for-real-interoperability-let-s-make-it-happen/95342</a>

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