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@bastian_S Jetzt noch den Nerdteil dazu, daher ohne Applist-Hashtag aber mit #linux.
#logseq nutzt als backend entweder #markdown oder #orgmode . Letzteres kann man natürlich über #emacs auch direkt nutzen und damit sehr gut aus Notizen und Ideensammlungen sehr akkurat gesetzt über #LaTeX PDFs kreieren... Für Poster, Präsentationen und Fließtext schon getestet.
die komplette verschränlung mit Logseq ist noch nicht gelungen, werde berichten, wenn fertig.

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@bastian_S ICh überlege gerade, welche ANwendungen bei mir eher nischig sind, und doch relevant genug für Umsteiger.
Kürzlich habe ich #logseq für mich entdeckt: eine komplett freie Alternative zu #obsidian . Und ich kombiniere es nach etwas gefrickel direkt mit einem zweiten sehr coolen Tool: #syncthing erlaubt über Betriebssystemgrenzen hinweg, Ordner zwischen Geräten zu synchronisieren ohne Cloud dazwischen.

Trying to decide: Obsidian.md or Logseq — which one is the ultimate tool for knowledge management and note-taking?

Both have their strengths, but I’m curious:
Which do you use and why?
Pros, cons, hidden features — let’s discuss!

Personal note taking and structuration app

I'm looking for personal notes taking app that would allow to organically add structure - especially by creating inter note links and to-dos/reminders.

I never used org-mode put from what I understand of it, it could be that.

It needs to be floss or at the very least based on an interoperable standard (I don't know about such a thing, I would love to learn).
I would need to used it on smartphone and linux laptop. If the sync relies on a private service, it needs to be eee.
It needs to be able to store rich text (the markdown set we seems to converge to is OK) and images, ideally integrates with mermaid.js

I know of :

Do you use any ? Do you know others?

Boost appreciated!

A privacy-first, open-source platform for knowledge management and collaboration. - Logseq
GitHubLogseqA privacy-first, open-source platform for knowledge management and collaboration. - Logseq

In anticipation of my apprenticeship/course in software development, I'm looking at note taking apps again. Used Obsidian heavily, but I think it's become too bloated. I liked and wanted to use Emacs, but it's so complicated, it's too much work (to have it sync etc). NotesNook looks good, but when I import my notes, none of the images show. Logseq do Orgmode now, so that's a strong possibility...
Anything else I should look at?
#PKM #notetaking #ObsidianMD #emacs #logseq #notesnook

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@ednico

#Logseq is Free Software and we #FOSS enthusiasts and contributors are enjoying it as it is now. It took me ~2 years of daily usage to learn how to use Logseq productively. These freeloaders and consumers of proprietary products have no patience to learn Logseq and are just attracted by shiny new features in the hope of fixing their attention span compromised by the dopamine-driven feedback loops ultimately caused by social media built around high flow of short content.

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@blogdiva I tried a lot of these and found I like #LogSeq best (also AuDHD)... #Obsidian takes quite some plugins to have the same utility, but more importantly is the differing presentation. There's something about the thinking mode when using an *outliner* (LogSeq) vs a *document editor* (Obsidian) that leads to more easefully structured thinking. Indentation > headings, basically.

The good news is it's easy to convert between them with some light regexing and also a swathe of conversion scripts out there...

I love @obsidian , but it's a shame that it's not #opensource (even if I'm aware of all the reasons they have to keep it closed).

I might make the switch to another solution, but I don't want a #cloud. I want local files (#linux , #macos , #iphone ) synced with #syncthing . And I want #markdown (I considered "1 big text file" @ellane but a bit of formatting is so nice 🤩😉).

It's an opportunity to reorganise the @johnnydecimal way! 🤩

With #joplin I can't choose the "vault" folder on #iOS. With #logseq neither. #orgmode , too much for me at this stage.

I'll continue my search...

Curious what the #PKM community thinks of the Johnny Decimal system[1]?

I came across this years ago and it recently resurfaced.

Is anyone using this in their PKM software and successfully built workflows around it? It seems like an alternative to PARA and Zettelkasten.

[1]: johnnydecimal.com/

johnnydecimal.comA system to organise your lifeJohnny.Decimal is a system to organise your life. Find things, quickly, with more confidence, and less stress. It's free to use and the concepts are the same at home or work.
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@amerpie @kepano

This is so false.

#Logseq stores files locally just like Obsidian. Git, Syncthing, etc work with both Logseq and Obsidian files.

Obsidian claims e2e encryption but for that you need 100% FOSS client while Obsidian is proprietary. Logseq Sync provides true e2e encryption.

Logseq has analytics that you can disable and that don't contain personal data anyway.

While the company received VC money, Logseq (the app) being FOSS belongs to humanity.

Edit: Wow, don't. There really is a lot of controversy. Further information here: qoto.org/@post/110203051859101

Original: For reference: choose #LogSeq over #Obsidian.

Qoto MastodonPost (@post@qoto.org)#Logseq honest review 🟢 #FOSS with AGPL license (in theory) 🔴 In reality it depends on a closed source module responsible for sync, dubious legality and misleading 🟡 Developed almost privately by a Venture Capitals funded company but accepting small contributions on GitHub and donations on OpenCollective 🟢 Store notes in #Markdown (or in less supported #OrgMode) locally 🟡 Forces indented lists in .md files and it doesn't support normal paragraphs at all 🟡 Introduces syntax that breaks Markdown in a very bad way instead of using code blocks where possible (in Advanced Queries?) 🟡 Based on Electron, NodeJS and NPM 🟡 UI and business logic mixed together, it forces you to always run the whole UI, including for sync 🟢 Available for Linux on FlatHub (unofficially) 🔴 AppImage is the only officially supported way to install on Linux 🟡 No official reproducible builds but unofficial Flatpak ones are reproducible 🟡 Not in F-droid (and the closed source sync feature wouldn't be allowed there anyway), you have to grab their APK manually or automatically 🟢 Supports Wayland but not by default 🟢 Custom CSS 🟡 Fixed UI, no tabs, no split view 🟡 Multi-window means multiple conflicting whole instances 🟢 Plugins platform 🔴 Plugins marketplace based on GitHub 🟡 Poor integration of plugins especially from UI/UX PoV 🟢 Very interesting concept of PDF annotations 🟡 PDF annotations not stored in the .pdf as standard annotations 🟡 PDF annotations stored in their own .md files with odd names 🟢 LaTeX formulas support 🟡 No native PDF export and in general problematic 🟡 Too many menus, command palettes and other redundant UI elements 🟢 Queries with simple syntax and UI 🟡 Advanced Queries are too often needed 🟢 Datalog query language in Advanced Queries 🟡 Very broken aliases feature 🟡 Inconsistent requirements of capitalize, lowercase etc in query syntax and elsewhere that even break some functionalities 🟢 Macros 🟡 Macros don't work with most syntax, including Advanced Queries 🟢 Supports HTML and Hiccup syntax 🟢 Supports embedding Web pages using iframes 🟢 Sync is e2e encrypted 🔴 The code for e2e encryption can't be audited because it is closed source 🟡 Tons of functionalities must be configured by editing a EDN file that it is very easy to break 🟢 Forum based on Discourse 🔴 Use (and abuse) of Discord, even release announcements are made there 🟡 Some Matrix bridges Concept: 8/10 Execution: 5/10 CC @logseq@a.gup.pe

I'm checking out various "personal knowledge management" tools in a sandbox to see if it'd be an upgrade of my ragtag collection of text file-based notes.

First candidate is #Logseq, supposedly "privacy-first".

How #privacy friendly is something based on Electron (aka Chrome)? Debatable, but then they also do this:

1) Have "Send usage data" on by default
2) Start with an example page that embeds a YouTube video, and accepts all cookies

tcpdump and mitmproxy go wild when starting the program.