The #Servo TSC has decided not to go ahead with the proposed changes to their AI policy, due to community pushback: https://github.com/servo/servo/discussions/36379#discussioncomment-12898169
This #Servo-#LLM thing is baffling. Take a look at the discussion. Is there any other way this could have gone?
https://github.com/servo/servo/discussions/36379
I've been rooting for Servo from the day I heard about it. At this point, even if they step back from this vileness, I'd be leery of trusting them again.
The @servo browser engine team is planning to allow AI for both documentation and code generation. If you like browser freedom but don't like AI, they're taking comments and you can let them know what you think about this.
@servo wow such a shitstorm, so much agressivity, insults, threatening when they ask openly and transparently the opinion of the community. You could just say "no" with reasoning in a respectful way. Imagine the person taking that in the face. That's really sad.
Are we, even here, in a world of violence where sane debate is not possible anymore?
#Servo 
LLM. No bumps on the way down, eh, World? Just straight down from here on out?
Experimental Tauri Verso Integration, https://v2.tauri.app/blog/tauri-verso-integration/.
A blog post showing the experimental Servo backend through Verso, inside Tauri. Pretty nice.
@Vivaldi Have you thought about contributing to the https://servo.org project? Or have you already done so?
#VivaldiBrowser #Servo #browser
Ok. Vivaldi is going to block Manifest v2 extensions as well. Back to finding a privacy and respecting browser.
This shouldn't be that hard. Ruled out so far
#Firefox: I don't know what they are doing and I am not sure they know either.
#Brave: Great browser but the crypto scam built in is no bueno. Lobste.rs blocks it
#Vivaldi: Got used to using it for the last two weeks and it's "busy" with it's UI but over all nice but uBlock origin being blocked (I know it has built in ad blocking but it seems meh) means that it is still under the control of Google.
Back to the drawing board... In the mean time time to fund #servo
@lynnesbian 
@bouncepaw indeed interesting. There are more hopeful developments, like the paradigm shift towards local-first computing, that may (#Tauri + possibly #Servo) or may not have a browser-based UI.
There's a supercool UI framework being built, with a11y support, called #Makepad. And they also use #wasm, also built an experimental #WebAssembly interpreter called Stitch.
You should watch the makepad vid referenced from the README. Mindblowing demo.
In unregelmäßigen Abständen gibt @mozillaofficial Anlass zur Frage, ob es inzwischen eher zur dunklen Seite der Macht zu rechnen sei.
Natürlich ist Google keine akzeptable Alternative (obwohl mir auffällt, dass viele Halbinformierte z.Z. von Firefox zu irgend einem chromiumbasierten Browser wechseln): Google hat eh schon zuviel Macht, was sich zuletzt darin zeigte, dass der beste Werbe- und Trackingblocker uBlock Origin nicht mehr ohne Klimmzüge mit mit Chrome benutzt werden kann.
Wenn es eine gute Alternative zu Firefox gäbe, würden noch viel mehr Leute wechseln. Aber Firefox-Forks wie #Librewolf, #Ironfox und #Zenbrowser sind nur eine Übergangslösung. Und WebKit-Browser lassen sich nicht mit AddOns wie uBlock Origin anpassen.
Wo bleiben die alternativen Rendering-Engines? Da gibt zum einen Ladybird. Das sah lange nach einem Ein-Mann-Projekt aus, aber inzwischen ist es eine Organisation. Ob es da mittlerweile mehrere Entwickler:innen gibt, wäre zu prüfen. (Update: Laut FAQ arbeiten 7 Vollzeitentwickler:innen an Ladybird, aber eine Alphaversion wird erst im Sommer 2026 erwartet.)
Außerdem wird weiterhin an der bei Mozilla entstandenen Next-Generation-Engine @servo gearbeitet, obwohl Mozilla das Rust-Team gefeuert hat, dem diese Engine zu verdanken ist. Die beiden auf Servo basierenden Browser Servoshell und Verso sind leider noch nicht alltagstauglich. Ich habe sie heute ausprobiert, damit ihr es nicht tun müsst.
Ich stimme @larsmb zu, der schreibt, dass Servo und Verso das Zeug hätten, den Browser zu bauen, den die User sich wünschen – einer, der in ihrem Interesse arbeitet. Dafür sollte es Fördermittel geben – auch öffentliche, steuerfinanzierte. Bis dahin müssen wir mit den Übergangslösungen leben.
When switching away from Firefox, I had a quick look at my options. Long story short, in the end it came down between #LibreWolf and #WaterFox.
One's hosted on #CodeBerg, the other on GitHub. That made the choice easy.
The Blink engine is being used in a lot of places. If I'm not mistaken this is also the engine used in #Electron.
WebKit in itself can be found everywhere in the open source world, but it is also maintained by #Apple.
But what about #Servo? The former Mozilla project turned #LinuxFoundation project based on #rust. There is no Servo web browser in the wild so far, that I know of.
But in essence, thems the only 3:
1. Blink
2. WebKit
3. Servo
4. Gecko (but... #Mozilla)
@mttaggart the clarification is in a blog post, that may not be legally binding. so in my eyes any clarification outside of the ToS is worthless.
If #Mozilla wants to offer AI services or collect and use their users data, this should be a separate opt-in ToS in my opinion, not the terms of the base application.
But TBH #Mozilla is doing too much dumb management decisions these days, so I'm considering to stop recommending it. (colorways, firing #rust and #servo teams, ads for temu and so on)
this is it. Move away from vanilla Firefox NOW!
use alternatives like Librewolf, @zenbrowser, Waterfox or any other Firefox-based browser like that.
Additionally go and support @servo, they are building a new web browser engine from scratch.
fuck you @mozilla (dead account) for destroying the only good left in your company & foundation
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