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Creationism is exhausting.

Anti-vaxxers are exhausting.

They just keep making the same stupid, flawed, or deceptive arguments over and over again despite these arguments being fully discredited.

And since every new generation joins the web and sees these old arguments *still floating around* you find yourself having the same conversations again and again and again...

It's just so fucking exhausting.

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I just think #TheEconomist is #discrediting itself by #platforming #MAGA #bullshit that even 5th graders can callout as #Kindergarten-esque #mobbing.

It's pretty much absurd to do so without seriously interrogating whether the #Trump regime actually knows the shit it does or whether this is just a #dismantling operation by #AgentKrasnov to enshure #Putin gets what he wants.

Tho in the meantime it only resulted in the #EU coming closer together and #Europe finding resolve against #Russia, with both #NATO and EU becoming stronger than before...

  • Granted the #USA already lost it's credibility in 2012 when Putin invaded #Crimea and the #BudapestMemorandum was violated #consequences-free instead of #BootsOnTheGround by the #US, #UK and #France and the current support for #Kyiv is the absolute bare minimum to avoid the political suicide that are flagged coffins returning home since in #Europe - unlike the USA - going to war isn't guaranteed to get elected, but rather will tank ratings (as it should be)!

Again: #REFORUSA is an act of self- and mutual defense at this point!

Diese Abhängigkeit von Microsoft ist ein Armutszeugnis. Seit mindestens über einem Jahrzehnt warnen Experten – doch Ignoranz, Profitgier oder blanke Inkompetenz verhindern jede Einsicht. Wer Verantwortung trägt, entscheidet sich bewusst fürs Weitermachen. Das ist fahrlässig und beschämend.

tagesschau.de/wirtschaft/digit

tagesschau.de · Ist Deutschland zu abhängig vom US-Konzern Microsoft?By David Zajonz

In other words, Generative AI and LLMs lack a sound epistemology and that's very problematic...:

"Bullshit and generative AI are not the same. They are similar, however, in the sense that both mix true, false, and ambiguous statements in ways that make it difficult or impossible to distinguish which is which. ChatGPT has been designed to sound convincing, whether right or wrong. As such, current AI is more about rhetoric and persuasiveness than about truth. Current AI is therefore closer to bullshit than it is to truth. This is a problem because it means that AI will produce faulty and ignorant results, even if unintentionally.
(...)
Judging by the available evidence, current AI – which is generative AI based on large language models – entails artificial ignorance more than artificial intelligence. That needs to change for AI to become a trusted and effective tool in science, technology, policy, and management. AI needs criteria for what truth is and what gets to count as truth. It is not enough to sound right, like current AI does. You need to be right. And to be right, you need to know the truth about things, like AI does not. This is a core problem with today's AI: it is surprisingly bad at distinguishing between truth and untruth – exactly like bullshit – producing artificial ignorance as much as artificial intelligence with little ability to discriminate between the two.
(...)
Nevertheless, the perhaps most fundamental question we can ask of AI is that if it succeeds in getting better than humans, as already happens in some areas, like playing AlphaZero, would that represent the advancement of knowledge, even when humans do not understand how the AI works, which is typical? Or would it represent knowledge receding from humans? If the latter, is that desirable and can we afford it?"

papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cf

papers.ssrn.comAI as Artificial IgnoranceAI and bullshit (in the strong philosophical sense of Harry Frankfurt) are similar in the sense that both prioritize rhetoric over truth. They mix true, false,

KI ist bald überall! Im Betriebssystem, im Browser – bald im Toaster? Endlich ein Algorithmus, der mir sagt, wann mein Brot knusprig genug ist! Währenddessen entscheiden Chatbots über Kredite, Jobs und vielleicht bald über meine Laune. Klingt super, oder? Diese absurde Ausbreitung geht mir gewaltig auf die Nerven.

On nonsense: Forms thereof, falsifiability, pseudoscience, bullshit, youth culture, and other craziness

web.archive.org/web/2020012121

I'd begun worrying about the resilience of truth and countermeasures to bullshit particularly online well over a decade ago.

This is an early compilation of heuristics and resources which came up in discussion elsewhere recently, and may be helpful to others.

Among conspicuous omissions, Aristotle's "Sophistical Refutations" (Sophistikoi Elenchoi in the original Greek), one of the earliest recorded (or surviving) guides to countering bullshit:

classics.mit.edu/Aristotle/sop

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sophisti

redditOn nonsense: Forms thereof, falsifiability, pseudoscience, bullshit, youth culture, and other crazinessI've been musing over the nature of nonsense, pseudoscience, quackery, bullshit, and fallibility. A few references and digressions. ##...
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@godpod

DEI initiatives were all #performative #bullshit anyway. Really heavy on crafting a public image, with plenty of internal and external #propaganda and #marketing. #Target is not interested in actually supporting marginalized communities, just increasing profits.

The annual #pride stuff was the epitome of it. They only sold Pride goods in June but never year round. When right wingers put pressure on them for it, they folded like empty soda cans in a 24 ton hydraulic press.

Seven of the #RPG books I worked on were pirated by #Meta to train their #AI #Bullshit

Regardless as to my feelings on copyright, the IP owner did not consent to their inclusion in the dataset.

Meta's use is fundamentally immoral to the point that my own works will have an exclusion to their existing permissive licences to say "Fuck you and your idiot autocorrect"

See if they've pirated your work here: theatlantic.com/technology/arc

The Atlantic · Search LibGen, the Pirated-Books Database That Meta Used to Train AIBy Alex Reisner
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@teledyn @sebastian@mastodon.cc

The #whitehouse explanation for why they need #Starlink should be included in #teaching materials in #computer #networks, #infrastructure, #wifi -

as an example for how things DO NOT work,
and what DOES NOT make any sense.

Except of course the #design goal is something else than what you are communicating altogether.

#bullshit #gaslighting